Posts by FatFreek 2005

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Cheery new Awake! cover - should make it easy to place...

by cedars in

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THE BIG BRASS of BROOKLYN!!

by clarity in

jw
friends

this bunch in brooklyn (gb) 'plays to the crowd' and attempts to look so big.. .

they brag to the doomed world, about the moral & religious superiority of jehovah's witnesses!.

they swagger and gloat how they alone are right & will live forever!!!!!!!!!!!.

FatFreek 2005

Hi Clarity,

A very thought-provoking post. Thanks for that. And thanks for the compliment on my cartoon.

Hey FF are you still compiling names of elders? How many so far?

Hmmm ... never did those of the elders. You may have meant Bethelites. That list of Bethelites (who have posted here) is up to 83 as of a few weeks ago.

Cheers,

Len

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THE BIG BRASS of BROOKLYN!!

by clarity in

jw
friends

this bunch in brooklyn (gb) 'plays to the crowd' and attempts to look so big.. .

they brag to the doomed world, about the moral & religious superiority of jehovah's witnesses!.

they swagger and gloat how they alone are right & will live forever!!!!!!!!!!!.

Update on Alan Feuerbacher's heart attack that he had last Sunday

by AndersonsInfo in

jw
friends

alan'swife, julie, talked to the cardiologist this morning.

the news about alan's heart is good.

he described the heart attack as mild and said that although there is damage to the lower portion of his heart, the pumping action probably won't be affected much.

FatFreek 2005

Here's how I fetched one of AlanF's "Best of" topics. As mentioned earlier, those links are dead.

First, click on "Best of Topics". There will be several pages to choose from. I chose page 1 and it so happens that AlanF's "best of" was on that page.

The Workaround:

From those headlines copy the text of one of them. I chose Bad Defensive Arguments. Then, inside Google Search, I pasted those 3 words and wrapped them in double quotes -- "Bad Defensive Arguments". I added the term alanf.

Bingo, I got 3 hits and selected the first of them which took me inside his excellent 11 year old composition.

Len

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JWN needs to form a judicial committee

by irondork in

jwn needs to form a committee to collect, organize and disseminate information to candace conti's lawyers.. .

several valid points have been made on this forum about the dishonest reasonings and tactics used by wt lawyers during and after this conti trial.

exposing the wt and using its own printed track record against it is what the good folks at jwn do best.. .

FatFreek 2005

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The Jehovah's Witness Two Witness Rule Explained

by God_Delusion in

righty then, if you've ever wondered what the two witness rule was all about, your wondering ceases right here and now .

this article should shed some light on the jehovah's witness two witness rule.. .

warm regards,.

FatFreek 2005

" As of 1991, statements by two victims of separate incidents by the same perpetrator may be deemed sufficient to take action and impose internal sanctions. [2] [6] [7] DNA evidence, medical reports, or information from forensic experts or police that proves sexual abuse is also accepted as a valid "second witness"." From the following:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah's_Witnesses'_handling_of_child_sex_abuse

The above quote "as of 1991" is questionable. Of those 3 references, only 2 of them cite dates, the earliest being 2002. The last one, the "Pay attention to yourselves ..." book, the 1991 edition does not even mention DNA -- nor the term "second witness".

Can anyone verify the quote, and the date, in anything Watchtower publishes?

Len

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Youthful Sexual Victim Fells Goliath -- Thanks Cedars and Nugget

by FatFreek 2005 in

i was able to create the following op-ed submission using cedars (with his permission) own script.

recall his great youtube presentation with nugget as the charming voice.

i hope to submit this in the morning to our democra-gazette as soon as it's vetted here.

FatFreek 2005

Thanks, Sylvia. Exactly what I was looking for.

Len

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Youthful Sexual Victim Fells Goliath -- Thanks Cedars and Nugget

by FatFreek 2005 in

i was able to create the following op-ed submission using cedars (with his permission) own script.

recall his great youtube presentation with nugget as the charming voice.

i hope to submit this in the morning to our democra-gazette as soon as it's vetted here.

FatFreek 2005

they flip flop doctrines more than a pan cake at ihop

I love that, CW. THE GREAT WATCHT0WER CONTRADICTION needs a crisp expression like that.

Len

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Youthful Sexual Victim Fells Goliath -- Thanks Cedars and Nugget

by FatFreek 2005 in

i was able to create the following op-ed submission using cedars (with his permission) own script.

recall his great youtube presentation with nugget as the charming voice.

i hope to submit this in the morning to our democra-gazette as soon as it's vetted here.

FatFreek 2005

I was able to create the following OP-ED submission using Cedars (with his permission) own script. Recall his great Youtube presentation with Nugget as the charming voice. I hope to submit this in the morning to our Democra-Gazette as soon as it's vetted here. I want to present nothing that can't be substantiated. Please check it out and make your constructive suggestions.

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A dramatic episode is unfolding that may affect your view of those who knock on your door. In a recent check, Google News pointed to some 898 articles that tell the remarkable story about an otherwise unremarkable young woman - a Goliath meets David story.

In a historic legal precedent, The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc. (Jehovah's Witnesses) lost its attempt to keep the ever-accelerating episodes of pedophilia behind closed doors. A jury found Watchtower behavior regarding its handling matters of child abuse to be unlawful in the aftermath of sexual abuse of a 9 year old girl.

California woman Candace Conti, now 26, was not interested in the traditional Watchtower settlement -- money. She only wanted the truth of her experience to be made public - justice to be done. That meant painfully recounting her experience on the witness stand in front of a jury of strangers.

But why make a large corporation, which directs the actions of some 7 million mostly law-abiding Jehovah's Witnesses, responsible? Conti was molested by a fellow congregation member in Fremont North congregation, California. This happened in the mid-1990s when Candace was only nine years old. What about the perpetrator, a Jonathan Kendrick? This JW - who ironically remains in good membership standing -- is now on the Sex Offenders Register, having been convicted of sexually molesting yet another child in 2004. Why penalize a corporation known by its followers as The Society, to pay up to 2.8 million dollars in compensatory damages, and as much as 21 million dollars in punitive damages (if their planned appeal fails)?

First, there is their two witness rule. This virtually shields the monster who simply makes sure that his dastardly act is private - between him and his prey. If that child molester denies the wrongdoing then local congregation elders will acknowledge that horrific event only if someone other than the child witnessed it. Otherwise, they are instructed by the Society's privately issued elder's manual to "leave the matter in Jehovah's hands" -- simply stated, do nothing. Worse, victims and their families are often intimidated and coerced into not sharing their hideous experience under threat that such action would be slanderous and grounds for disfellowshipping (translation: mandatory shunning by family members not within the same household).

Second, the local elders are instructed to always contact the branch office when they hear allegations of child abuse. This is, in effect, unlawful since law enforcement should always be the first ones to know when a crime has been committed. The Society has wrongly insisted that the victim take a back seat, that the branch office should be first to know in order to properly control damage to its own reputation.

It should be here noted that no encouragement is given the victim that she (or he) submit to a "Physical Evidence Recovery Kit," or PERK. With such kit, experts collect among other things, DNA evidence. This silent witness has proved far superior when compared to testimony by some human witnesses. The terms PERK and rape kit are absent in Watchtower's massive library of public literature since 1950 and in its private instructions to elders, "Pay Attention To Yourselves And To All The Flock".

Thanks to her bravery, Candace Conti may unwittingly be the recipient of financial wealth she never imagined. Thanks to her bravery Goliath may be forced to retreat, rewriting its decades-old policy. More important, some of the many thousands of other victims may be inspired to come forward with their own story, knowing that Goliath has been felled.

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Len

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Who Can Benefit From the Door to Door Ministry ?

by wasblind in

we have the benefit of the d2d ministry of the jehovah's witness.

they alert unsuspectin' householders wit a knock on a door.

and wit the click of a mouse, what do you think that housholder will find ?.

FatFreek 2005

Hi Heaven,

Thanks for the compliment. Hey, that is a snazzy emoticon.

Len